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== New Category notability == | == New Category notability == | ||
I thought I'd consult a staff member about the notability of a category for Trainer Card images. Basically, this category would contain all of the images from the {{ga|Trainer Card}} and {{bp|Trainer Card level}} pages. It would be beneficial for better grouping, organization and search. Can I go ahead and create it? →<small> [[User talk: | I thought I'd consult a staff member about the notability of a category for Trainer Card images. Basically, this category would contain all of the images from the {{ga|Trainer Card}} and {{bp|Trainer Card level}} pages. It would be beneficial for better grouping, organization and search. Can I go ahead and create it? →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|SuperPikaPool13]]</small> 08:06, 4 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
:Sounds like a good idea. I would place the category as sub-category of [[:Category:Game screenshots]]. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 16:49, 4 September 2023 (UTC) | :Sounds like a good idea. I would place the category as sub-category of [[:Category:Game screenshots]]. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 16:49, 4 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
::Thanks, I'll get to work on that. On a related note, most of the images are named randomly. Is it is worth renaming most of them to follow a consistent naming style, or will it be too much work? Additionally, I'd appreciate your input [[Special:Diff/841744|here]]. →<small> [[User talk: | ::Thanks, I'll get to work on that. On a related note, most of the images are named randomly. Is it is worth renaming most of them to follow a consistent naming style, or will it be too much work? Additionally, I'd appreciate your input [[Special:Diff/841744|here]]. →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|SuperPikaPool13]]</small> 02:11, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::I'd be willing to give it a go if you had a naming format in mind. | :::I'd be willing to give it a go if you had a naming format in mind. | ||
:::As for the other issue, as a general rule, user-submitted images can supercede prerelease images. I would wait for Wowy's input, however. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 22:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | :::As for the other issue, as a general rule, user-submitted images can supercede prerelease images. I would wait for Wowy's input, however. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 22:57, 5 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
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::::* File:Trainer Card XY Green.png → ''Trainer Card XY'' (maybe this will need to be kept as it is, if uploading separate images for all levels, they dont have stars so they would need to be referred to by colors) | ::::* File:Trainer Card XY Green.png → ''Trainer Card XY'' (maybe this will need to be kept as it is, if uploading separate images for all levels, they dont have stars so they would need to be referred to by colors) | ||
::::* File:Trainer card PLA.png → ''Trainer Card PLA'' (to match the capitalization of everything else) | ::::* File:Trainer card PLA.png → ''Trainer Card PLA'' (to match the capitalization of everything else) | ||
::::Unfortunately all these are so different so I'm not sure if the process could be automated. Since most of these images are only used on a single page, I guess redirects will not be needed. Additionally, I also found Special:Diff/841716|two Special:Diff/841738|personal trainer card images that'd need to be deleted. →<small> [[User talk: | ::::Unfortunately all these are so different so I'm not sure if the process could be automated. Since most of these images are only used on a single page, I guess redirects will not be needed. Additionally, I also found Special:Diff/841716|two Special:Diff/841738|personal trainer card images that'd need to be deleted. →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|SuperPikaPool13]]</small> 01:49, 6 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::I deleted the personal images. | :::::I deleted the personal images. | ||
:::::I'd rather use "Trainer Card" for the Gen I-II images unless you can prove "Trainer Case" was used instead. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 20:49, 6 September 2023 (UTC) | :::::I'd rather use "Trainer Card" for the Gen I-II images unless you can prove "Trainer Case" was used instead. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 20:49, 6 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::::I was just going off of their current names. After going through the article again, it seems they are just referred to as "Player Name" in-game, so the "Trainer Card" naming for Gen1 & 2 makes sense. I think the ones one where different names come in to play are SMUSUM and SV, where they are explicitly referred to as "Passport" and "Profile". | ::::::I was just going off of their current names. After going through the article again, it seems they are just referred to as "Player Name" in-game, so the "Trainer Card" naming for Gen1 & 2 makes sense. I think the ones one where different names come in to play are SMUSUM and SV, where they are explicitly referred to as "Passport" and "Profile". | ||
::::::IMO, the more important issue is about the progression collages, since we currently have collages for three games and individual images for one game. If we are considering having a entire gallery at one point, there needs to be a consistent style not just for the naming, but for the images themselves too. If deciding to go with individual images, the ''normal'' card can be named directly as "Trainer Card <GameAbbrv>", but the higher levels might be "Trainer Card <GameAbbrv> <Color>", since half the games just have a diffrent color name for the card instead of a star system. This would come into play instead of the stars in the names for the HGSS ones above. | ::::::IMO, the more important issue is about the progression collages, since we currently have collages for three games and individual images for one game. If we are considering having a entire gallery at one point, there needs to be a consistent style not just for the naming, but for the images themselves too. If deciding to go with individual images, the ''normal'' card can be named directly as "Trainer Card <GameAbbrv>", but the higher levels might be "Trainer Card <GameAbbrv> <Color>", since half the games just have a diffrent color name for the card instead of a star system. This would come into play instead of the stars in the names for the HGSS ones above. | ||
::::::This additionally bring me to an issue about differences in badge case and trainer card images. (I fear this may become a conversation more relevant to Pedia than Archives, but bear with me here). In some games like RSE/FRLG, the badges are small icons on the bottom of the trainer card. In DPPt/HGSS, badges are on one screen of the DS and trainer card on the other. In BW/B2W2, the top screen always shows a Pokemon gym/league logo, and one can switch between badges/trainer card on the bottom screen (with a third view for back of the trainer card). In Gen1-2, the initial view shows the player info on the top half of the screen, with the bottom of the screen showing play time, etc. This can be changed to the badges view on the bottom half, with the top half remaining same. If it is allowed to have different images for all the views, I was thinking a separate new section (or maybe a new page itself) on the trainer card page about badge cases would be notable. →<small> [[User talk: | ::::::This additionally bring me to an issue about differences in badge case and trainer card images. (I fear this may become a conversation more relevant to Pedia than Archives, but bear with me here). In some games like RSE/FRLG, the badges are small icons on the bottom of the trainer card. In DPPt/HGSS, badges are on one screen of the DS and trainer card on the other. In BW/B2W2, the top screen always shows a Pokemon gym/league logo, and one can switch between badges/trainer card on the bottom screen (with a third view for back of the trainer card). In Gen1-2, the initial view shows the player info on the top half of the screen, with the bottom of the screen showing play time, etc. This can be changed to the badges view on the bottom half, with the top half remaining same. If it is allowed to have different images for all the views, I was thinking a separate new section (or maybe a new page itself) on the trainer card page about badge cases would be notable. →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|SuperPikaPool13]]</small> 08:54, 7 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::::I could see about splitting the collages into separate images for conistency. As for the other issue, if you feel you should bring it up on the Trainer Card (game) talk page, I encourage you to do so. This will get more people involved. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 03:42, 8 September 2023 (UTC) | :::::::I could see about splitting the collages into separate images for conistency. As for the other issue, if you feel you should bring it up on the Trainer Card (game) talk page, I encourage you to do so. This will get more people involved. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 03:42, 8 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
::::::::Any update on moving the image and splitting the collages? →<small> [[User talk: | ::::::::Any update on moving the image and splitting the collages? →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|PikaTe]][[Special:Contribs/SuperPikaPool13|pig999]]</small> 14:21, 14 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::Sorry! We've been busy with The Teal Mask, but I can work on splitting the collages and getting everything finalized tonight. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 02:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC) | :::::::::Sorry! We've been busy with The Teal Mask, but I can work on splitting the collages and getting everything finalized tonight. - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 02:46, 15 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::: Thanks for helping out, I've changed the file name on pedia and brought the issue on the talk page. Hopefully other users take up an interest soon. →<small> [[User talk: | :::::::::: Thanks for helping out, I've changed the file name on pedia and brought the issue on the talk page. Hopefully other users take up an interest soon. →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|PikaTe]][[Special:Contribs/SuperPikaPool13|pig999]]</small> 15:32, 15 September 2023 (UTC) | ||
== Merge request == | == Merge request == | ||
Would it be possible for you to merge the page history of {{red link|File:Diglett's Tunnel PE.png}} into [[:File:Diglett's Cave PE.png]]? Someone had uploaded the first image long ago with the incorrect name (Diglett Tunnel in Alola instead of Diglett Cave in Kanto). A duplicate file was later uploaded with the correct name instead of the original file being renamed. →<small> [[User talk: | Would it be possible for you to merge the page history of {{red link|File:Diglett's Tunnel PE.png}} into [[:File:Diglett's Cave PE.png]]? Someone had uploaded the first image long ago with the incorrect name (Diglett Tunnel in Alola instead of Diglett Cave in Kanto). A duplicate file was later uploaded with the correct name instead of the original file being renamed. →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|PikaTe]][[Special:Contribs/SuperPikaPool13|pig999]]</small> 05:22, 9 October 2023 (UTC) | ||
:That shouldn't be necessary. The first file is misnamed and unused, so it should be deleted instead. - 14:29, 9 October 2023 (UTC) | :That shouldn't be necessary. The first file is misnamed and unused, so it should be deleted instead. - 14:29, 9 October 2023 (UTC) | ||
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::::::::Oh, right, and almost forgot: BDF moved an image whose redirect is now unnecessary. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ::::::::Oh, right, and almost forgot: BDF moved an image whose redirect is now unnecessary. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:30, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::Done - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 21:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | :::::::::Done - [[bp:User:Coffee|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 21:21, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::"Team Star Grunt Carmine.png" should have been renamed instead of uploading at the new name to maintain the upload history. (Or, merged, if the image was already uploaded at the new image.) →<small> [[User talk: | ::::::::::"Team Star Grunt Carmine.png" should have been renamed instead of uploading at the new name to maintain the upload history. (Or, merged, if the image was already uploaded at the new image.) →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|PikaTe]][[Special:Contribs/SuperPikaPool13|pig999]]</small> 22:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC) | ||
:Could you delete "Hypnotized Pikachu XY019.png" and "Stone Ball AG104.png"? They both go unused and have better existing equivalents. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:03, 12 May 2024 (UTC) | :Could you delete "Hypnotized Pikachu XY019.png" and "Stone Ball AG104.png"? They both go unused and have better existing equivalents. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:03, 12 May 2024 (UTC) | ||
::I'll take care of them, but it's not necessary for you to keep contacting indivdual admins about moves and deletions. The categories {{cat|Candidates for deletion}} and {{cat|Candidates for moving}} are checked regularly by admins. - [[bp:User:Chosen|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 13:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC) | ::I'll take care of them, but it's not necessary for you to keep contacting indivdual admins about moves and deletions. The categories {{cat|Candidates for deletion}} and {{cat|Candidates for moving}} are checked regularly by admins. - [[bp:User:Chosen|<span style="color:#336799">Chosen</span>]] ([[User talk:Chosen|<span style="color:#000">Talk</span>]]) 13:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC) | ||