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::Removing "dead space" down to the pixel cuts off the feathering on the black lines with these examples. It actively damages the artwork, the crop here is far too severe.[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 12:12, 21 May 2023 (UTC) | ::Removing "dead space" down to the pixel cuts off the feathering on the black lines with these examples. It actively damages the artwork, the crop here is far too severe.[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 12:12, 21 May 2023 (UTC) | ||
:::That I agree with, I always make sure to keep the feathering. But I double-checked and the Baxcalibur example I sent you perfectly follows that rule. Only the absolutely unnecessary parts are cropped, and the image is centered well, making sure that the Pokémon is more visible when used in templates (the majority of its use). My question remains: is cropping them (the ones from Zukan) OK if it doesn't touch/hinder the original artwork in any way? I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be. They were replaced by the user saying "At the moment, the artwork for Zukan is being used until Lewtwo re-uploads larger versions once he has time." That's clearly not happening any time soon, so in the meantime nothing stops us from going using cropped versions (like we have for over a decade and like most fan sites do), granted they are cropped perfectly. Once you are ready to re-upload them, you do that, but until then we should keep the appearances of consistent. | |||
:::Don't take this the wrong way, I've been following you on Twitter, I have no issues with you, I just don't think there was enough open communication about this. [[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] ([[User talk:Oneofthosedf|talk]]) 13:58, 21 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm fine with it, but always hesitant to set a precedent of "this can be cropped" because Bulbapedia users have had issues with this in the past. Which tool are you using to crop the artwork?[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 10:05, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::: I use Paint.NET, magic wand, 0% tolerance, so no issues. Cropping is really just a necessary aesthetic choice. These images are used everywhere, and they are already too small as is and the official site is inconsistent in how much space they leave around the Pokémon, for example the Wooper forms appear way smaller than other mons, cropping fixes the issue and leaves no ambiguity. [[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] ([[User talk:Oneofthosedf|talk]]) 15:20, 22 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::: Wait I'm confused, why would you need to use the magic wand when cropping? [[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 08:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::: I don't need to, I guess, but it makes the process simple and I like to work efficiently. With 0% tolerance it lets me see where the artwork begins, that's how I noticed the pixels in the background of your images (which are still very nice, don't take it as knock on them). I select the background, invert the selection, crop the body of the Pokémon, open the canvas resizing window, check the difference between height and width, divide it by two, I know that's the amount of pixels I will need on both sides to center the image perfectly. Takes about 10 seconds. Much easier than doing the selection by hand and messing around with pixel count. [[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] ([[User talk:Oneofthosedf|talk]]) 13:35, 23 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::: That's a totally fine way to handle it, but those "background pixels" are a part of the artwork, since they were uploaded as such, this is the case with plenty of pieces. I think leaving things as official as possible is for the best, but the crops do not need to be as restrictive as going right up to the edges of the lineart. It sets a poor precedent for future uploaders that will cleave off the feathering. | |||
::::::::: I guess I don't share the opinion that the background and its imperfections are part of the artwork, if that was the case those imperfections would be present in other iterations of the official art and the background around the body of a given Pokémon would always be the same. We go up to the edges since it's pretty unambiguous. No need to count how many pixels we need to leave on each side, easy to center, makes the body of the Pokémon as visible as possible (which is more appreciated with every new generation and the increasing complexity of designs). As for future uploaders, it's something we can double-check from now on, as I intend to do with the previously uploaded, cropped Zukan versions. Out of curiosity, I replicated the aforementioned Baxcalibur crop, and got the exact same result. I find the pace of our communication a bit too slow for how little we need to talk about, is there a way to continue it on Twitter or Discord? [[User:Oneofthosedf|Oneofthosedf]] ([[User talk:Oneofthosedf|talk]]) 16:18, 23 May 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Edit warring == | |||
Hi, I'm letting you know here that reverting an image several times like you did with {{redlink|File:HZ eyecatch 12.png}} is {{bp|edit warring}}. No matter your feelings about your rightness or anything, it's not appropriate for users to continually revert an image/page. Differences should be resolved through discussion, generally on a user talk page or on the talk page of the image/page in question, ''before'' they can devolve into an edit war. Please take care in the future. This is a blockable offense, but since you haven't been warned before, we'll leave it at that today. | |||
I'm also going to ask that you take to heart the maxim "assume good faith". Your last reversion comment was quite aggressive. "Yelling" and demanding doesn't improve your arguments. | |||
Thanks. [[User:Tiddlywinks|Tiddlywinks]] ([[User talk:Tiddlywinks|talk]]) 00:45, 1 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Image format again == | |||
Png is a preferred format compared to jpg. I suggest converting your jpg images to png before uploading them, thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:41, 10 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
* PNG is preferred for transparency and thumbnail quality, but for actual image quality, JPG format is far more integral to preserving high quality artwork under the 2MB limit. After this limit has been raised, I will continue to upload HQ JPGs in PNGs, which should hopefully be soon. I will not switch to a completely lossless file format if it requires an immense loss of detail in the first place.--[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 14:45, 10 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Image Summaries == | |||
Hi just a quick reminder, but when you new images, please be sure to include a summary. All images uploaded to the Bulbagarden Archives should have them. It can be a generic one liner, but it should describe what the image is about, and where possible link to the relevant Bulbapedia article. Thanks! '''[[User:4iamking|<span style="font-family:noteworthy;color:#FF1493">4iam</span><span style="font-family:papyrus;color:#8A2BE2">king</span>]]''' 14:13, 15 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
:In relation: when uploading images, be sure that the categories you add are not red links, and that the rights templates you use are correct ones. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:24, 30 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
::Reminder: please remember the image summaries for your uploads. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:51, 30 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::Categories cannot be simultaneously used in description and as categories. Also, there are templates that can be used in descriptions to add proper categories for you. For example, game locations have their own templates. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:20, 30 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::Here is a list of templates you can to categorize new images: [[:Category:Summary_templates]]. When uploading, you can simply use a template directly from the summary field, and it will format the page correctly with the licensing. Hope this helps! →<small> [[User talk:PikaTepig999|PikaTe]][[Special:Contribs/PikaTepig999|pig999]]</small> 02:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::I repeat: categories in the description do not show up in the description. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 18:40, 25 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::The rights template is supposed to go into its own section below the summary. Simply add the desired summary, and then choose the rights template you want from the options below. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:40, 27 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Reminder: game locations have summary templates. Don't forget to use them. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:40, 20 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
::::::::In addition, categories go to the bottom of the page, not the summary section. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:52, 20 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Instead of just SV in the image descriptions, you could probably write "Scarlet and Violet". --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:31, 27 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
::You keep doing it with every game in all of your descriptions now. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:09, 23 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::Apologies! When uploading images, I will write Pokémon X and Y instead of Pokémon XY, but I wasn't aware that it was a part of the manual of style for the archives--[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 15:13, 23 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
== Deletions == | |||
If you are marking images for deletion, you should keep in mind that images '''cannot''' be deleted if they are used on Bulbapedia, if you are marking any image for deletion, please be sure that all uses on Bulbapedia are resolved. Additionally if the image serves a purpose on Bulbapedia, it shouldn't be marked for deletion if the issue is merely an image quality issue, including for upscaled images. Instead the <code><nowiki>{{bad image}}</nowiki></code> template should be added to the image until another image can be uploaded. Keep in mind the archives main purpose above all is to serve as an image depository for the wiki, and the wiki's needs need to be addressed first when considering deletions. '''[[User:4iamking|<span style="font-family:noteworthy;color:#FF1493">4iam</span><span style="font-family:papyrus;color:#8A2BE2">king</span>]]''' 11:51, 30 September 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Player icons == | |||
I noticed that you've uploaded the icons for selecting the player character's appearance at the start of the game. Would you be able to obtain icons for the XY and LGPE characters? Those are the only ones missing, and adding them would create a complete set. →<small> [[User talk:PikaTepig999|PikaTe]][[Special:Contribs/PikaTepig999|pig999]]</small> 19:06, 11 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
* I'll be able to do it when I have the time to, I'll get on it at some point. [[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 10:23, 12 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Bank Animation == | |||
A bit confused by your latest images regarding bank animation, just for my own curiousity, can you explain what this is?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:52, 20 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
* I'm in the process of adding it to a page regarding animation terminology that I'm almost done writing. This was asked of me in the #species-format-ideas channel in the Discord.[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 15:54, 20 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Marking images to be transparent == | |||
In case you were not aware, the template {{template|transparency needed}} exists, which also categorizes it accordingly. Hope it helps! →<small> [[User talk:PikaTepig999|PikaTe]][[Special:Contribs/PikaTepig999|pig999]]</small> 08:06, 21 November 2023 (UTC) | |||