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The images you're uploading now have noticable black lines at the edges, and thus do not fulfill Bulbagarden's requirements for good quality images. Please wait until the HD version surfaces. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:44, 2 February 2020 (UTC) | The images you're uploading now have noticable black lines at the edges, and thus do not fulfill Bulbagarden's requirements for good quality images. Please wait until the HD version surfaces. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:44, 2 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
::Ok, sorry. I was doing some testing with a new application that I am using. Apparently it didn't work out well either. = / --[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana ]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana |talk]]) 14:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC) | ::Ok, sorry. I was doing some testing with a new application that I am using. Apparently it didn't work out well either. = / --[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana ]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana |talk]]) 14:55, 2 February 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::Can't help but notice your recent images aren't the best quality again--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 11:20, 5 July 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::I'm sorry, they are temporary, being able to tidy up the sections of a page that I started. As soon as I have better quality I will post them. = /--[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana ]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana |talk]]) 11:31, 5 July 2020 (UTC) | |||
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You're neglecting to add appropriate categories to your uploaded images. Please be sure to add them to your future uploads. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC) | You're neglecting to add appropriate categories to your uploaded images. Please be sure to add them to your future uploads. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:19, 26 March 2020 (UTC) | ||
:The truth is that I forgot how to put it. I'm sorry, can you tell me where I can find the tutorial?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana ]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana |talk]]) 20:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
::There is no tutorial, AFAIK. Either just add them to the bottom of the page after uploading, or copy the contents of an editing window from an existing image, paste them on the screen while uploading an image, and edit the description and categories to fit the image you're uploading. I hope you understood. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:20, 26 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::I will try to pay attention to that next time, thanks.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana |Hikaru Wazana ]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana |talk]]) 22:29, 26 March 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::You're still doing it. Also, don't forget you can add Bulbapedia links to the image descriptions. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 11:14, 21 May 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::::Don't forget: when uploading from a web series like Paldean Winds, be sure to name the image appropriately. For example, like Pokémon Origins images have "PO" in their titles, Paldean Wind images should have "PW" in their titles. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:14, 18 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
== File naming == | |||
Please make sure that when you upload an image, they're given the proper filenames. [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/w/index.php?title=File%3ANessa_Toxapex_Adventures.png&type=revision&diff=651490&oldid=651488 Images related to Pokemon Adventures must have "Adventures" put on at the end], especially when they're for non-original characters such as Nessa. They're only supposed to be blank for the anime. [[User:Ataro|Ataro]] ([[User talk:Ataro|talk]]) 03:23, 19 June 2020 (UTC) | |||
::Ok. Taking advantage, I noticed that you undid the changes that I made in the pages of the characters({{bp|Nessa}} and {{bp|Sodo}}) of these last photos that I hosted. Was there something wrong? | |||
::Asking why if I put something back on they can accuse me of doing edit war.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 14:50, 19 June 2020 (UTC) | |||
== Category placement == | |||
When adding categories to the images you upload, please 1) put them under the "Licensing" header, not the "Summary" header, and 2) place them on top of each other, not in a row. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:55, 10 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
:Oh, and make sure you add categories for every human character (as long as they have their own categories, of course) and Pokémon in the picture, not just the most prominent ones. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:59, 10 October 2020 (UTC) | |||
::You're still placing categories in a row and under the wrong header. Also, all Twilight Wings images should have a TW at the end, not just some. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:27, 6 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::About the categories...What is the right formatting that I have to put? Can you help me with that?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 14:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::You could do what I do, upload the image, add the summary and then edit the post to place the categories under the licensing bit--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 14:37, 6 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
:::::I put some images on the server, did I get them placed correctly this time?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 22:55, 09 November 2020 (UTC) | |||
::::::You keep putting them in a line instead of atop of each other, and under the Summary header instead of the Licensing header. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:43, 29 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::::Please start putting the categories on top of each other. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:41, 22 March 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Korrina and Ash friends.png== | |||
I'm able to upgrade images, can you confirm which episode you got Korrina and Ash friends.png from?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 22:25, 2 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
::Hi, Happy New Year. It's from XY 31. The episode when the group goes to Mega Evolution Cave--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:30, 3 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Goh and Raichu image== | |||
Where did you find the video where you got the image of Goh and Raichu?--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:55, 29 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:It's from Official Twitter of anipoke. They released some high quality images.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana ]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana |talk]]) 16:37, 29 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Link templates == | |||
Hello! Just wanted to let you know that aside from {{template|bp}}, we do have many of the templates from Bulbapedia as well, including {{template|p}} and {{template|a}}. As such, just a reminder that you link Pokémon with the p template. If you're curious about what other link templates that we have, you can check it out [[:Category:Link templates|here]]. Thanks! [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#999"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#A68C21"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 03:58, 30 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
::Hi, thank you very much. :D -[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana ]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana |talk]]) 17:37, 30 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::You're still using "bp" for Pokémon instead of "p". Also, reminder: place the categories at the bottom, not under the "Summary" section. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:10, 18 June 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Delete/Move Requests== | |||
If you ever upload an image with the wrong name and need it changing to deleting, I highly recommend you ask Chosen to do it, he's done a few that I've made mistakes with--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:17, 12 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I understand, thank you. o/-[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana ]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana |talk]]) 12:20, 30 January 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Domino manga image== | |||
Hi, I was wondering if you could tell me where you got the image of Domino in the Mewtwo Returns manga that you uploaded? [[User:The Great Butler|The Great Butler]] ([[User talk:The Great Butler|talk]]) 06:42, 28 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
::Hi, I would pass without problems, but the site I found them has been disabled (was a Russian Pokémon site). At the time I found the image, I found a bunch of scans of the franchise's manga. In the case of Mewtwo Returns, they only had the first volume of the manga.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:25, 28 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Look, take a look to see if it helps you with what you need.http://pokespecial.com.pl/download/ | |||
:::It's outdated, but it looks like it still has active links.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 12:48, 28 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Request == | |||
Since I've not been able to find scans of the Journeys manga myself, could you upload images of Ash and Goh's Pokémon that we're missing? --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:40, 12 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Unnecessary upload(s) == | |||
Your Machamp image upload is unnecessary because 1) the episode hasn't aired yet, so Machamp hasn't Gigantamaxed yet, 2) there's text in the image, so it needs to be upgraded anyway, and 3) her Machamp had only appeared in Journeys, so the JN at the end of the title is unnecessary. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 15:15, 24 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I know exactly these three points you mentioned, I just uploaded it to be able to arrange the sections on the page I'm putting together for Bea. Only that. I do not intend to use this page outside of MY userspace. | |||
::And no, Bea's Machamp has briefly appeared in Pokémon Twilight Wings, and will definitely appear in the Adventures manga.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:29, 24 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Link templates == | |||
Please be aware that many common link templates like "p", "pkmn", and "an" work on Archives as well. Please use them when necessary. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 07:05, 30 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Please don't forget to use the templates whenever necessary. Also, don't forget to place categories on top of each other instead of in a row. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 20:49, 23 October 2021 (UTC) | |||
::The "Ash" template also works here. <nowiki>{{bp|Ash}}</nowiki> is a redirect link. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 22:10, 12 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::Thanks.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 22:15, 12 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::You're still neglecting to use the "p" template. And you're overusing the "anime characters" template too. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:50, 18 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::::But which one should be used? It's not "anime characters", so which one?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 15:06, 18 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::::::With the Bellsprout image, you again neglected the use of the "P" template. And anime character template is reserved for images focusing on characters. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 10:00, 19 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
You've not been using the p template in your BBS image descriptions. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 19:52, 12 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
:I've noticed you're not using the p template. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 12:59, 18 March 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Image Source == | |||
I'm curious to know where you got your video source for Ash Mega Lucario.png--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:55, 5 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
::It was from the episode itself. I was able to watch it early on the fansub that I follow with subtitles.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 20:59, 5 November 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Evolutions == | |||
Pokémon Evolutions images should have the "Pokémon Evolutions" category with them, and "Evolutions" at the end of their titles, not PE. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 14:53, 2 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Discord== | |||
I don't suppose you fancy joining the Bulbapedia Discord which would make communicating with other members easier? https://discord.com/channels/202737349996576769/360914250564239364--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:25, 10 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
:BigDocFan is trying to contact you on Discord. He wishes to talk with you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:09, 17 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
==Absol legend Hoenn.png== | |||
Just so you know, the image you uploaded for Absol legend Hoenn.png is also in use as JN064--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:57, 18 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
::I had no idea, what is good to do in this case? Delete the image and use the one from the episode? =/ | |||
::I was reviewing the episode and I thought that it would be interesting to put it in the article, I had no idea that I already had one of these, usually the system notifies. --[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 16:25, 18 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Image titles == | |||
The Wobbuffet image should've been titled "Jessie Wobbuffet JNM.png", not "Wobbuffet JNM.png". And you also used the manga's Japanese name in the description. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:59, 19 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
::With a lot of stuff I uploaded it ended up going unnoticed. I will try to fix it. Thanks.[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 10:15, 19 December 2021 (UTC) | |||
== Image request == | |||
Hi Hikaru Wazana, I hope you are doing well! I noticed that you were uploading images for Momo for the Pokétoon. Thanks for your help there! I was wondering if you would be interested in uploading representative images for the Pokétoons like {{red link|File:Wait Here Magikarp.png|this image}} for the 5th-9th Pokétoon. Thanks in advance! [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#999"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#A68C21"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 20:26, 9 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
:Sorry, I can't count. I meant the 5th-8th Pokétoon. [[User:Ht14|<span style="color:#999"><sup>'''''ht'''''</sup></span>]][[User talk:Ht14|<span style="color:#A68C21"><small>''14''</small></span>]] 20:27, 9 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::Alright, I will try to upload these images in the next few days. I already have some on my pc here. I'll try to work with a little affection on the Pokétoon episodes because I think the series is deserving a little more attention and love.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 21:45, 09 January 2022 (UTC) | |||
==bp/p== | |||
I noticed in your latest summaries that when using links for Pokemon, you're using bp instead of p, please use the correct term and check if the quality of your images are good as we had to upgrade your images from JN102 to improve their quality.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 20:47, 1 April 2022 (UTC) | |||
::The problem is that the captures I get from an episode in 1080p, you know that. I don't know where to find better quality than that. The other point was my fault, I admit. I have to pay attention to these details.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 21:25, 1 April 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::Polite reminder p for Pokemon, not bp--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]] ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 16:42, 23 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
::::I'll try to pay more attention to that.--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 20:25, 24 June 2022 (UTC) | |||
:::::p for Eternatus, not bp--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 15:57, 30 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Adventures image == | |||
Where did you get that Adventures image of Mustard you uploaded? That round hasn't been translated yet in any of the sources I could find. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 08:56, 21 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
* https://twitter.com/pokesp_special/status/1549944752442728448 | |||
* https://twitter.com/karubiimunohito/status/1549986423960260608 | |||
[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 17:42, 22 July 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Lyra == | |||
As Lyra has her own anime page, links to her page must be an, not bp--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 09:24, 9 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
::The truth is that I didn't even know that the site had this code =/, where is the complete list in case I need to upload other types of images?I wanted to work on some pages that have little content.-[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 10:48, 9 September 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Wallace == | |||
Uploading a DP image of Wallace is unnecessary, as his current anime image is already from DP. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 09:29, 10 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Request == | |||
I'd like to request you stop uploading anime images from your early source. The image quality in it is not quite as good as the one with the source that comes available later, meaning that your uploaded images will be upgraded anyway. Thank you. --[[User:FinnishPokéFan92|FinnishPokéFan92]] ([[User talk:FinnishPokéFan92|talk]]) 17:24, 11 November 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Daisy images == | |||
I've noticed you've been uploading images for Daisy, including adding a category for Daisy, something that she doesn't have. As Daisy doesn't have her own category (and probably won't get one), please don't add one to any future images you upload. Also with Daisy and Misty.png, you forgot to crop the image and make it 640x480, something I have since done.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 19:25, 28 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
::I'm trying to work on some recurring character pages during this anime hiatus. There is a lot to be done and there are not always people interested in doing it. I hadn't even noticed that Daisy didn't have her own image category, I thought it did since she is an important character in the anime. Sorry. | |||
::About the last image, my Pokémon Chronicles episodes are in horrible quality. Then I had to get this image from the Pokémon.com website. To avoid inconvenience, if I have an image that I want to upload, can I be asking you on discord? Or what other ways do you suggest?--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 02:51, 29 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
== Categories == | |||
As previously mentioned above, you're adding categories to images that don't exist. Might I suggest in future you check to make sure a category does exist before you add it.--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 19:46, 31 December 2022 (UTC) | |||
==New images== | |||
Just letting you know for future reference, images don't have to be 1280x720 any more, we can have them 1920x1080--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 13:46, 7 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
::Good to know, I usually have to use an extra app to convert these formats correctly. Thank you very much for letting me know. :D--[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 13:59, 7 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Regarding your recent edits == | |||
Regarding your recent edits ([[Special:Diff/853657|[1]]], [[Special:Diff/853658|[2]]], [[Special:Diff/853659|[3]]], [[Special:Diff/853660|[4]]], [[Special:Diff/853661|[5]]], [[Special:Diff/853662|[6]]], [[Special:Diff/853663|[7]]], [[Special:Diff/853664|[8]]]), the reason those images were reverted to a screenshot was because the artwork was AI upscaled. Thus, reverting the images to their unofficial artwork versions and then adding the {{template|bad image}} template is actually not useful. →<small> [[User talk:SuperPikaPool13|PikaTe]][[Special:Contribs/SuperPikaPool13|pig999]]</small> 08:46, 4 October 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Screenshot Resolution == | |||
If you're uploading anime screenshots, upload them in their original resolution, as I've mentioned on your last several from Paldean Winds. --[[User:Lewtwo|Lewtwo]] ([[User talk:Lewtwo|talk]]) 17:59, 30 November 2023 (UTC) | |||
:Just to be clear, this isn't any sort of requirement, 1080p is preferred over 720p and they can/should be replaced where possible. Even so, as long as the resolutions aren't distorted having images is better than not having them. '''[[User:4iamking|<span style="font-family:noteworthy;color:#FF1493">4iam</span><span style="font-family:papyrus;color:#8A2BE2">king</span>]]''' 01:26, 2 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Diana links == | |||
Polite reminder that when adding a link to Diana's page, the correct link is <nowiki>{{OBP|Diana|Horizons}}</nowiki> and not <nowiki>{{bp|Diana}}</nowiki>--[[User:BigDocFan|BigDocFan]], Junior Admin Bulbapedia ([[User talk:BigDocFan|talk]]) 18:45, 8 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: Thanks. o/ --[[User:Hikaru Wazana|Hikaru Wazana]] ([[User talk:Hikaru Wazana|talk]]) 19:13, 8 December 2023 (UTC) | |||