User talk:Kogoro

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Archives October 2008 - August 2014

Sorry about that

For some reason the image wasn't appearing any differently to me but just now updated, sorry. AshKetchumNo.1 00:49, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

HGSS back sprites

Technically, we can animate them, since if your leading Pokémon is out of its Poké Ball (which is almost all the time; it rarely returns to its Poké Ball), it simply appears from the edge of screen and the animation is normally played (while Poké Balls "color" the sprite). Visible here.Eridanus (talk) 08:11, 6 August 2014 (UTC)

Animating HGSS back sprites isn't really a high priority at this time. But if someone has to time to kill on it, they're free to do so. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:30, 26 August 2014 (UTC)

Sugimori art concerns

I left this on Archaic's page before I realized that this belongs on yours more, but i'm still not sure if you are the right person to go to, since this applies to bulbapedia in addition to the archives, but staff page says the council you are in "define Bulbagaden Archives policy and style", so... yeah. Sorry for asking both of you, I previously was asked to not do that because it requires all parties to get together, but I really think you could probably answer better then archaic.

I have some concerns/questions regarding the polciy of the site with sugimori artwork, and hosted files in general. Apparently, at some point, it was decided that all images could not exceed 1000x1000 pixels, and I was wondering what the logic of that was. The older, higher res versions of files are still available via file history, so server concerns cannot be the issue at hand.

Furthermore, a great deal of the sugimori art is miscolored, and requires color correction.

Lastly, I am troubled by the fact that http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:495Snivy.png , http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:498Tepig.png and http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:501Oshawott.png , which currently shows their BW2 art, is the same file that had their BW art, and the file was just updated with the totally distinct piece of artwork. New files should have been uploaded, and I don't see why only the BW2 art is used in the infobxes, vs. rotating betweeen it and the BW art.

If you could respond to any of this, I would really appreciate that Jabberwockxeno (talk) 02:50, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

As I am currently both the Bulbapedia Editor-in-Chief and the head of the Bulbagarden Archives, I am certainly the correct person to go to.

Current policy dictates a general file dimension limit of 1280×1280 pixels, this is in place for multiple reasons including (but not limited to); managing reasonable file sizes, reducing server load from exceptionally large images, and to try and be somewhat respective of fair use.

Files uploaded in the last couple of years should not have incorrect coloration in any way, as they have come directly from Nintendo press releases & other official sources. Older images may have color issues, however.

As for file names, the default files "###Name.png" is always the most recent artwork, while past artwork is transferred to a different filename: Snivy, Tepig, Oshawott. The species infobox exclusively uses the most recent artwork as unnecessary use of switch/if parser statements negatively impact the server. Each species article contains two links directing to their Archives category, one directly underneath the artwork in the infobox, and another underneath the sprite box.

I hope that covers everything. If you have any other questions or concerns, feel free to let me know. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 06:15, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Jr Admin icon disappearance

The Junior Admin icon isn't showing up on the recent changes next to the name of the Junior Admins even though it was in the coding. The icon is visible on the Bulbapedia side. Pattyman (talk) 04:56, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

Fixed. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 05:30, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

XY images

Hi, I have a 3DS capture board, and I'd like to upload some images to the archives. I was thinking of uploading some images of moves to begin with. I'm not autoconfirmed yet, but I understand that I should get permission from a member of staff before uploading XY images to the site. That being said, I'd like to ask your permission to do so (when the system allows me to upload images). I'm willing to provide proof of my capture board. --TotalPotato (talk) 02:02, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

As you're aware, we do have to ask for proof of the capture device ownership. If you could provide a screenshot of a Bunnelby with your username as its nickname, we can then move onto granting permissions. Thank you for your interest in assisting with XY uploads. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 22:05, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Here you go! Bunnelby screenshot --TotalPotato (talk) 22:43, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

Looks good, you're clear for uploading XY images. I'll give you the manual approval usergroup shortly. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 04:48, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Scratch that, it appears you're autoconfirmed already. You're clear to upload. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 04:49, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

XY move screenshots

Hello. I have recently acquired screen capture quality images of moves from XY. These images, however, are not from my own capture device, as I don't have one, nor were they taken from a Pokémon fansite. They are from YouTube videos that use this device. I was contacted by Eridanus after I uploaded one of those pictures, but he was unsure of the legality of this method, so I would like to know whether or not I should get rid of all the pictures. Seantham (talk) 23:14, 11 September 2014 (UTC)

As YouTube videos are "owned" by their uploader, images from such videos shouldn't be uploaded without the video uploader's approval. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 04:48, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

Hydro Pump move

According to TotalPotato, we had ORAS Hydro Pump for Water Gun. It seems to be different from what was uploaded for the XY one. Eridanus (talk) 13:20, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I'll have a talk with SnorlaxMonster regarding the image, as he was the one who originally uploaded it as Water Gun. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 16:05, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

After talking with SnorlaxMonster regarding the image, we're going to wait until ORAS releases to be sure that the move shown is going to be Hydro Pump or not. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 05:26, 23 September 2014 (UTC)

I have two reasons for believing that the move was Hydro Pump rather than Water Gun. In the video trailer from which the screenshot was taken, the move sounded very similar to how Hydro Pump sounds in X/Y. Also, the video showed Treecko using Energy Ball and Torchic using Flamethrower, both of which are the starters' final level-up moves. Mudkip using Hydro Pump would follow this pattern. It's not conclusive, but I'm convinced that the move shown in the video has to be Hydro Pump. --TotalPotato (talk) 01:21, 24 September 2014 (UTC)

XY Sprite size

While I realize that the expansive size of the XY sprites being uploaded is due to huge Pokémon such as Kyogre, most XY sprites have a load of blank space that makes resizing them unwieldy. At 100px, characters such as Pikachu are hardly noticeable. Keeping them at normal size, on the other hand, stretch out templates more than they are designed to handle. Are there plans to use the XY sprites outside of the (Pokémon) pages? - Chosen of Mana 13:01, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

That template is going to be replaced for Gen VI events, so there's no need to worry there. As for using the models outside the species pages, that's currently undecided. The models, thanks to wide & tall models like Kyogre & Rayqyaza, aren't really going to work well for much more than reference material. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 03:35, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Teleport outside of battle in XY

A still image of Teleport used outside of battle in XY doesn't really show anything, so I've attempted to make an animated PNG of the move. I managed to get the file size down to 2.21 MB, but I have a concern. Most XY move images on the main site are compressed from 400x240 to 300x180 px so not to stretch the infobox, but I haven't been also to resize the png without making the file larger (I think it came out at over 4 MB when I tried it), and I believe I read somewhere that if an animated png is resized on the site, it no longer shows as an animated image.

Basically, I'm not sure whether or not the APNG is suitable. Here it is for your consideration: Teleport OW --TotalPotato (talk) 18:26, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

Mind if I see the original animated file? Masatoshi talk 05:29, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Sure! Here it is: Teleport OW video --TotalPotato (talk) 11:48, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Do you have the video without artifacts? It seems to have low quality, so I'd like to see it with normal quality, if possible. Masatoshi talk 19:49, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

The only thing I did to the original video was trim its length. As far as I know, I didn't lower the quality. It was recorded in 240p (the resolution of the 3DS's top screen), which might be why it looks bad in the online preview. On the off-chance I accidentally reduced the quality, here's the untrimmed video. --TotalPotato (talk) 20:15, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Are you able to record both screens and not just the top screen? If so, I'd like you to try and record the teleporting animation again, please. I ask this because I saw recordings with both screens, with their quality being in 360p. Masatoshi talk 20:32, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Ah, it turns out that when I recorded the video, the capture software was using a codec to compress it a little. Changing the quality setting in the codec from 85 to 100 produced this APNG (2.67 MB) and this video. --TotalPotato (talk) 22:09, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

It looks a bit better than before, but it still has some artifacts. Can you try recording both screens? We're trying to aim for a 360p video in here, that might help with the quality. Masatoshi talk 23:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand why you're aiming for 360p. The top screen is 240 pixels tall, and the site does not artificially enlarge move animations from other gens purely to achieve a benchmark. I think the codec was, once again, the problem, and I feel confident that this video should be of the quality you're looking for. If not, here's a video of both screens. Thank you for your patience - as you can tell, I'm not too well versed in creating high quality videos! --TotalPotato (talk) 02:29, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

Yes, that's more like it, although I want to see it better in a faster computer (The one I'm currently using is basically a stone). The 360p quality thing was to see if that would improve the video quality, but apparently, you solved it. What was the issue with the video codec? Also, try creating the PNG file and we'll be able to see if we can use it or not. Masatoshi talk 05:45, 29 September 2014 (UTC)

I was using a lossy codec before, and so I downloaded a lossless one (Lagarith). Unfortunately, the optimised APNG is now 8.19 MB. I tried making the animation a little shorter, but that only reduced the file size to 7.03 MB. --TotalPotato (talk) 18:59, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Since the lossless version is far too large to be acceptable for use, we'll have to use the lossy version. We'll see about a different way to include it on the Teleport article, so it doesn't need to be thumbnailed. Thank you for your efforts with this image, TotalPotato, and thank you for handling the discussion up to here, Masatoshi. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 21:51, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Wondering

So all editing is locked because of the Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire? I understand. Oh and can you add Jessie's Wobbuffet for XY047 because it did appear in the show. --JasonL (talk) 21:02, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Looks like Wobbuffet has been added. Next time, please put Bulbapedia edit requests in the edit request thread on the Bulbagarden forums. Thanks! - Kogoro - Talk to me - 20:41, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Asking

By the way about XY044 picture do you like the one I put or the other one.?Because I didn't know somebody put a new picture I was trying to help find one that fits better ever since the episode aired outside in Japan.--JasonL (talk) 16:53, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

The version currently uploaded to the filename is sufficient, it doesn't need further changing. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 20:58, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Anville Trains

Ok, so I was able to get all but the last train's original images; I will continue to try to get the original image for that train. My question is this: When they are not cropped, the text box is at the top of the screen. Here is the Hyperspeed Train without edits: Without and the cropped image: Cropped. The cropped image's dimentions are 256x145. Which do you like better? Adamws (talk) 00:42, 10 November 2014 (UTC)

Cropped should be alright, as long as they're pixel-true to the original media. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:34, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Adamws (talk) 03:47, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Ash's Pikachu Biograph

The picture for Ash and Pikachu You don't like it with them in Kalos? I know you see the pic you see right now is from Unova. But I figured I added it for Kalos because they already showed up recently. Well let me know which picture is more recent the first one or the next one.--JasonL (talk) 15:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

Recentness isn't what is important, the important thing is that images used best represent what they're supposed to be representing. It really doesn't matter whether an image of Ash and Pikachu embracing is from Unova or Kalos, as long as it's the best appearing embrace for the uses on Bulbapedia. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:34, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

XY Clothing Tags

I talked to SnorlaxMaster and he told me to bring this here, so here goes.

I found sprites for the clothing tags in XY on Spriter's Resource and I was wondering if they're ok to be edited and uploaded here. Link. Also, as a side thing, I don't have a good editing program (only MSPaint), so is there anyone on this site who can do the editing instead? Voltdetector (talk) 12:00, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

I'd like to see what you have in mind for how to use them before I can really give a go ahead on uploading them. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:31, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Well, me and Tiddlywinks were thinking of using them in the Clothing page (along with boutique listings elsewhere) instead of resorting to simplistic descriptions of the tags. Or just for something on that page to show what the tags look like. Voltdetector (talk) 09:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I think you may have misunderstood what I meant. I meant that I would like to see a visual example of what you intend to do with the boutique tags, to make sure that I properly understand what you're hoping to accomplish with them. (Since two people can have different ideas on what something may look like.) Apologies for the late response. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:02, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Upload Message and Cropping

Hey, I've got two quick things. First, on the archives the messages "ATTENTION!: Before uploading files related to Pokémon X and Y, read this message." and "Before uploading any images related to Pokémon X and Y, please take a moment to read this message." are displayed. It may be wise to update it replace "Pokémon X and Y" with "Generation 6" or some other method of including ORAS.
Second, I have cropped two images that were tagged with the {{bad image}} template for having a logo: File:M17 Riot unmasked.png and File:M17 Riot Marilyn kiss.png. While these two images have not lost anything important, I'm unsure if a replacement would still be needed for them due to being cropped. If so, I apologize for removing the {{bad image}} template. Nairbnroh (talk) 04:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

I've modified the messages to be more inclusive of Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire. Cropping shouldn't really be used as a method to remove a station logo, a logoless version of the full screenshot is the proper replacement method. So, I've restored the notice with new replacement rationale. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:02, 13 December 2014 (UTC)

Artwork

Hey Kogoro, i have a couple of Pokémon artworks i want to update for the site and most of them are from Generation 5. They are also 1280x1280 pixels. Moonboy65 (talk) 22:54, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Also, i have a couple of images for updating in mind Moonboy65 (talk) 23:24, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Until you have become autoconfirmed, you can post upload requests (including a URL to your image uploaded on an image/file hosting service) on the talk page of the file you want to have replaced. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:54, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

Wait, how will I know I've been autoconfirmed? Moonboy65 (talk) 14:51, 9 January 2015 (UTC)

Devon Scuba Gear sprite

Sorry to bother you with this, but can we use the sprites from Serebii.net? I found the sprite there, but am I allowed to use it here? Sorry, I am pretty new...--EVguru (talk) 18:25, 19 December 2014 (UTC)

No, we do not allow the upload of images from serebii.net on the Bulbagarden Archives. Additionally, please make new sections at the bottom of a talk page rather than the top. Thank you. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:54, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

ORAS item icons

For items like the Colored orbs, who got new sprites in ORAS, shouldn't the ORAS sprites get uploaded over the main image? After all, when the HGSS sprites were uploaded, they relegated the Generation III sprite to a name with a suffix. --Abcboy (talk) 03:19, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

When an existing image is uploaded over, it takes quite some time for the CDN to update the image on Bulbapedia. We've been moving away from such filename formatting for items in favor of generational/game-based filenames as to better keep their sprites current on Bulbapedia. Older item sprites will likely get a similar treatment eventually, with the old filename format redirecting if needed. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 04:18, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Amie decorations

Did or do you have any ideas on how the Pokemon-Amie decorations should be uploaded? There are over 150 of them, and a number of wallpapers too. Should I make a new template (if so, do I need approval first?), do without, or perhaps use {{Decoration}} (perhaps it should be modified for explicit Amie support?)? Should they go in a particular category? And are filenames like "Pokemon-Amie Dangerous Smoke Cushion Sprite.png" or "Pokemon-Amie Dragon Wallpaper.png" good (maybe just "Amie[...]")? Tiddlywinks (talk) 00:46, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Image upload

I have an image of Umbreon and Espeon (Gates to Infinity) from the game animation that was uploaded by nintendo on youtube. Is it notable enough to upload? →PikaTepig999★ 06:07, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

Pokérus sprite

I got a Pokérus Gen. VI icon that you can view here. Do you mind if I upload it? ?8 (talk) 01:04, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

I also got a Pokérus cured sprite while I was waiting, which can be viewed here. Do you mind if I upload that too? ?8 (talk) 01:17, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about that. Please disregard these links from my last post; they don't work. Instead, take these links:

Pokérus and cured.

Again, do you mind at all if I upload these? Oh, and could you tell me if the links don't work? ?8 (talk) 03:02, 26 February 2015 (UTC)

Where did you obtain these images from? - Kogoro - Talk to me - 05:49, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

These are sprites I created myself. ?8 (talk) 22:13, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

How did you create them? - Kogoro - Talk to me - 07:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

I used GIMP Image Editor to crop the rest of another image for the actual Pokérus symbol, then actually made the cured image myself. ?8 (talk) 17:43, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Where did the image you extracted the first symbol come from? - Kogoro - Talk to me - 08:04, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Sorry for the very late response. The truth is, I cropped it from a fan-image, but brightened the color tone. ?8 (talk) 22:35, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

Apology

Sorry for the mishap about Luxio's VA. I wasn't trying to cause trouble or bother anyone really, I was curious. I thought Luxio was voiced as Sarah, but one of the Admins said its not. The only reason I was asking people is because I thought one of them know who voiced who. And I wanted to know where all the the users keep finding VA for other Pokemon. So anyway again, sorry about everything.--JasonL (talk) 18:35, 26 March 2015 (UTC) JasonL (Talk)

It's fine to be curious, and to want to help fill in missing info, but you can't go around asking every random staff member you come across or ignore direction from a staff member to stop doing something. If the info isn't present on the article, we simply don't know who voiced the character and haven't been able to get the information from our sources. If someone can find the info from a reliable source, they're welcome to add it (with attribution in the edit summary). - Kogoro - Talk to me - 23:35, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Question

Is it possible for you to delete the archives account "ChickasaurusA" with something like UserMerge? I created that account in 2010 or earlier after not knowing that my existing Bulbapedia account would work and only made one contribution using it. I am really sorry for having created more than one account without knowing it. Thanks. Chickasaurus (talk) 20:59, 26 March 2015 (UTC)

We can't delete accounts, nor do we really have much use for an account merging extension. In a case like this, we just block the extra account. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 23:35, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Mainspacing

Is there a template in Archives that is the same with the Bulbapedia template mainspace? I created a proposed template for Archives. And because I can't find any template like mainspace, I write a notice in my proposed template in my own. Can it be moved to the Template: namespace also? Thank you! Pokéfan95 (talk) 07:15, 13 May 2015 (UTC)

It is highly uncommon for people to make template proposals, so the Archives doesn't require such a notice template as it's easier for the creator to just bring the proposal directly to the staff. As for your template, I don't really see any point in it. The Archives specifically limits uploads to a two megabyte maximum that can only be bypassed by staff. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 07:51, 14 May 2015 (UTC)

Because there may be some images that have no valid reason for having a large filesize. And, I also fixed my template to be more understanding. And finally, I created another proposed template. There are some images that maybe not suitable for young viewers, and most of them are memes. For example, this. Pokéfan95 (talk) 02:46, 16 May 2015 (UTC)

And I created new two proposed templates. It is User:Pokéfan95/Template:Ash and User:Pokéfan95/Template:AP. I am also trying to create another one, but I wanna change the border and background color. I wanna change it to green, so what is the hashtag number of green? And can you show a list of them too? Thank you! Pokéfan95 (talk) 07:35, 17 May 2015 (UTC)

Kogoro, can you also move my template User:Pokéfan95/Template:Ash to User:Pokéfan95/Template:AshCat? Because there is already a template named Ash. If you are planning to move it to the template namespace, please move it instead to Template:AshCat. And please move also my template User:Pokéfan95/Template:AP to User:Pokéfan95/Template:AshPika. The same as above, if you are planning to move it to the template namespace, please move it instead to Template:AshPika. Thank you! Pokéfan95 (talk) 01:43, 18 May 2015 (UTC)

Templates exclusively for the use of adding categories are quite unneeded. It's significantly simpler to include [[Category:Ash Ketchum]] or [[Category:Ash's Pikachu]] when needed than trying to remember extremely obscure templates. Templates should save people's time, not require more of it. - Kogoro - Talk to me - 02:04, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Ok, I understand. But how about my User:Pokéfan95/Template:PA template? Thank you! I still don't know what is the hashtag number of green and light green. Do you know it? Can you also give me a list of them for the future? Pokéfan95 (talk) 11:20, 19 May 2015 (UTC)